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K-80 barrel hangers Mike Smithfield - 20:36 22/06/1998
I understand that there are different sized front hangers for the k-80, can you tell me what sizes are available and what difference do they make.
Re: K-80 barrel hangers Alan - 20:44 22/06/1998
K-80 barrel hangers are available in six sizes for Factory Screw-in choke guns and nine sizes for fixed choke barrels and Briley choked barrels. The size starts at 0.5mm and goes up in 0.5mm increments. Each change in hanger size moves the point of impact about 90mm at 35 metres, this will vary from barrel length to barrel length and you really need to pattern test to find out exactly the change for your gun.
Alan
Hangers Mike - 20:47 22/06/1998
Thanks for th info. Another question, why are there less hangers for the screw-in choked barrels than for fixed choke barrels?
Re: Hangers Alan - 20:52 22/06/1998
There are less hangers for screw-in choked barrels because the tubes are already further apart at the muzzle than are fixed choke barrels. This is because of the flaired section to accomodate choke tubes without sacrificing barrel wall thickness. It does not apply to Briley choked barrels because they are the same outside diameter as fixed chokes. To compare hanger sizes, as a very rough rule of thumb you can estimate that a No: 4 hanger in Choke tubed barrels is approx the same as a No 6 in fixed choke barrels. i.e 2 sizes up. This is only a rough guide but gives you a starting point. Reciever Cleaning Donald Blue - 02:06 01/07/1998
What is a good method for cleaning the K-80 reciever? I shoot practice three times a week, I average 600 rounds per week.
Receiver Cleaning Alan - 14:18 01/07/1998
To remove all the bits of powder residue from the bottom of the receiver I use spray brake cleaner, this removes old grease and oil and any residue clinging in the corners, plus most of these sprays have quite a bit of force in them. Make sure you remove the stock before you use this as you may damage the finish and wear gloves to keep the stuff off your skin. After using the brake cleaner you will need to relubricate everything, as the cleaner will leave it dry. I don't recommend that you use this to clean the internal mechanism as it will penetrate every crevice and you will not be able to get lubricant back onto hidden parts without stripping out. Finish off by wiping over the outside with a suitable rust protecting "oil", this is very important if the receiver is coin finish or blued, the nickel finish is very rust resistant but it is still a good idea to keep it protected. If you are shooting 20 - 30,000 rounds a year then you need to get the gun serviced at the close of every season. All the springs will be renewed during service and you can be sure that the gun will be reliable through the next season.
Re: Reciever Cleaning Donald Blue - 04:28 03/07/1998
I have removed the stock and submerged the whole reciever in kerosene and then used Krieghoff spray oil to re-lube the internal parts, I have been told that the kerosene contains enough petroleum as to not cause any problems? Do you think that this is ok?? It seems to work without any problems and it removes all the tiny bits of crud that gets inside.
: What is a good method for cleaning the K-80 reciever? I shoot practice three times a week, I average 600 rounds per week.
Receiver Cleaning Alan - 17:33 03/07/1998
Don,
I don't really recommend soaking the whole receiver in anything and I will try to explain why. When the K-80 is built at the factory every part is properly lubricated with a special grease with very strong adherent properties, this means it stays where you put it. Special attention is given to contact points on spring ends and any surfaces that rub together. The same treatment is given to the gun when it is stripped and cleaned during routine servicing by any Krieghoff authorised repairer. When you soak the receiver in a solvent such as kerosene you will remove all this grease. Simply spraying the mechanism with a lubricating oil does not gaurantee that you actually get any into the places that matter. I know that some oils have a "creep" nature and do get to most places but you cannot be sure that you got the oil where it is needed. Secondly, oil does not have anything like the same lubricating properties under load as does a specially designed grease. As if all this was not enough, oil will not stay where you put it, over a short period of time it will drain down leaving some vital areas of the gun unprotected. Lastly, excess oil in the mechanism will soak into the head of the stock and destroy the grain structure of the wood (one reason why I always recommend guns are stored muzzle down). I don't believe that you will have done any damage to your K-80 but I would have it stripped and rebuilt by an approved shop. The inside of the mechanism should not pick up much in the way of debri shooting even a 1,00 rounds a week. I check mine out periodically and it is perfectly clean after six months hard use. You need to consider that if the inside of the head of your stock is oil soaked it will have bits of blackened wood falling off into the mechanism all the time. Best solution is to dry the wood off as well as possible and remove any bits sticking in this area. If your K-80 has been properly put together after service, the mechanism will not need any lubrication for a whole year, the only maintenance required is to take off the stock and chase any water out after a wet day. A light spray with a water repellent oil will do the trick and a light spray will not be enough to remove the grease.
Re: Receiver Cleaning Donald Blue - 22:00 03/07/1998
Thank You very much for the advice, I have only cleaned my K-80 once in the kerosene, but I won't do it again. Thanks again.
Don Blue
: Don,
: I don't really recommend soaking the whole receiver in anything and I will try to explain why. When the K-80 is built at the factory every part is properly lubricated with a special grease with very strong adherent properties, this means it stays where you put it. Special attention is given to contact points on spring ends and any surfaces that rub together. The same treatment is given to the gun when it is stripped and cleaned during routine servicing by any Krieghoff authorised repairer. When you soak the receiver in a solvent such as kerosene you will remove all this grease. Simply spraying the mechanism with a lubricating oil does not gaurantee that you actually get any into the places that matter. I know that some oils have a "creep" nature and do get to most places but you cannot be sure that you got the oil where it is needed. Secondly, oil does not have anything like the same lubricating properties under load as does a specially designed grease. As if all this was not enough, oil will not stay where you put it, over a short period of time it will drain down leaving some vital areas of the gun unprotected. Lastly, excess oil in the mechanism will soak into the head of the stock and destroy the grain structure of the wood (one reason why I always recommend guns are stored muzzle down). I don't believe that you will have done any damage to your K-80 but I would have it stripped and rebuilt by an approved shop. The inside of the mechanism should not pick up much in the way of debri shooting even a 1,00 rounds a week. I check mine out periodically and it is perfectly clean after six months hard use. You need to consider that if the inside of the head of your stock is oil soaked it will have bits of blackened wood falling off into the mechanism all the time. Best solution is to dry the wood off as well as possible and remove any bits sticking in this area. If your K-80 has been properly put together after service, the mechanism will not need any lubrication for a whole year, the only maintenance required is to take off the stock and chase any water out after a wet day. A light spray with a water repellent oil will do the trick and a light spray will not be enough to remove the grease. K-80 Paul - 03:08 27/01/1999
Does anyone out there in cyberspace know anything about the supposed replacement for the KS-5? I heard they stoopped production of this and had a replacement due out soon. Please provide me with some answers as I'd like to blow my Christmas money soon onthis new gun. Also, what scroll type do you all suggest. Thanks--
Paul
Re: KS-5 Alan - 09:05 30/01/1999
Paul,
Sorry about this late reply, I had missed your posting down here at the bottom. If you pick up a thread low down in the list it is perhaps a good idea to either post your query as a new item at the top or send me an e.mail to alert me to the new question. I will aslo do my bit by checking down the list from time to time.
Regarding the KS-5, it is not a model we have here in the UK as our Trap uses both barrels scoring 3 for a first barrel kill and 2 for the second which means you loose a point every time you have to use your second barrel. Max score ex 100 targets is 300 points. I asked the factory about the KS-5 and they tell me it is still being produced and will continue. I had seen the ads in some of your magazines but these were not clearance guns but a promotion, this is what I am told straight from the factory. For sure like all manufacturers Krieghoff will have new products planned for the future but I do not believe a replacement for the KS-5 is due any time soon.
Alan.
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